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They're not special upgradeable. I'm guessing that was something in beta they scrapped, it gets added in a later patch we don't have, or someone was messing around with xmls.

Sledeau wrote:They're not special upgradeable. I'm guessing that was something in beta they scrapped, it gets added in a later patch we don't have, or someone was messing around with xmls.

That's a Demonic Control Bar. Those can be special upgraded.

Oh, thanks. I guess that makes a good excuse to not worry about minmaxing a control bar until then.

So how do the special upgrades for the control bar affect damage?

nandattebayo wrote:So how do the special upgrades for the control bar affect damage?

They're the same as Two Handed special upgrades, so it effects damage directly for blue and crit-wise for red. Obviously part of your stats from your min/max you receive from the special upgrade effects would be added to your puppet's damage but I'm not sure whether red's effects would effect the puppet or not.

Psy wrote:

nandattebayo wrote:So how do the special upgrades for the control bar affect damage?

They're the same as Two Handed special upgrades,

ive been wondering this but can they get 2 handed enchants like fists can?(barbarian etc)
if this was already answered sorry
it seems like they would but then i remember you can put minis in the second slot.

Psy wrote:

nandattebayo wrote:So how do the special upgrades for the control bar affect damage?

They're the same as Two Handed special upgrades, so it effects damage directly for blue and crit-wise for red. Obviously part of your stats from your min/max you receive from the special upgrade effects would be added to your puppet's damage but I'm not sure whether red's effects would effect the puppet or not.

I meant how do they affect puppet damage. If red doesn't apply to the puppet's damage, then blue is the only thing worth using.

Unless you're using handles for melee.

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nandattebayo wrote: I meant how do they affect puppet damage. If red doesn't apply to the puppet's damage, then blue is the only thing worth using.

Unless you're using handles for melee.

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If puppet skill are affect by critical hit itself, by logic upgrades will also produce similar effects.

And at least you can windmill with handle unlike... you know, knuckles.

Knucklemill makes me sad. Before the Fighter update hit the only ability my human had over rE was r4 Windmill.

Daakun wrote:Knucklemill makes me sad. Before the Fighter update hit the only ability my human had over rE was r4 Windmill.

I'm glad they did. Knuckles would be OP-er with a big radius.