[Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

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[Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

Postby Kenero » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:38 pm

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Table of Content
I. New Talent
.....A. Soul Star Talent Info
.....B. Diva Character Creation
.....C. Concept Art
II. New Items
.....A. Instruments
.....B. Microphones
.....C. Clothing Set
.....D. Gachapon Items
.....E. Misc. Items
III. New Skills
.....A. Introduction
.....B. Singing
.....C. Phantasmal Chorus
.....D. Encore
IV. Videos
.....A. Female Singing (Composed)
.....B. Female Singing (Default)
.....C. Male Singing (Composed)
.....D. Male Singing (Default)
.....E. Piano
.....F. Cello
.....G. Violin
V. Credits



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I. New Talent

With the Diva update, we are introduced to a new talent which utilizes three corresponding talents and brings us three new skills. We are also offered a new hero to create a new character using the Diva Hero and Elite Hero cards!

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A. Soul Star Talent Information
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Talent Name: Soul Star
Talent Title: Diva
Corresponding Talents: Music, Holy Arts, Puppetry
Corresponding Skills: Singing, Phantasmal Chorus, Encore
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Obtaining the Music, Healing, and Puppetry Talents to Master will unlock this talent as a hidden talent icon.

Base Stat Bonus:
  • 10 Strength
  • 10 Dexterity
  • 10 Stamina

Level Stat Bonus:
  • .25 Intelligence
  • .5 Dex
  • .25 Stamina

Age Stat Bonus:
  • 1 stamina
  • 1 int
  • 1 will



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B. Diva Character Creation

Creating a new character with the Diva talent awards the character certain skills and skill ranks. Depending on what type of character card you use, you may be awarded higher skill ranks and bonus AP to begin your fantasy life.

Free Diva
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New characters made with either the card you start your account with, possibly elf and giant cards, and any other card other than Hero and Elite Hero may choose a hero talent for their first ever talent. Doing so will give you certain skills at novice on creation, and provide you additional quests. However, you must pay to maintain your talent or switch to a different hero talent upon first rebirth.

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  • ImagerF Magic Mastery
  • ImagerN Healing
  • ImagerN Party Healing
  • ImagerN Meditation
  • ImagerN Mana Shield
  • ImagerN Fire Shield
  • ImagerN Ice Shield
  • ImagerN Lightning Shield
  • ImagerN Natural Shield
  • You do not start with First Aid.
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  • ImagerN Playing Instrument
  • ImagerN Musical Knowledge (No Book Needed!)
  • ImagerN Composing
  • ImagerN Dischord
  • ImagerN Battlefield Overture
  • ImagerN Lullaby
  • ImagerN Enduring Melody
  • ImagerN Encore
  • ImagerN Singing
  • You do not start with Vivace, Harvest Song, March Song, Enthralling Performance, or Phantasmal Chorus.
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  • You do not start with Puppetry Skills.

In addition, you will start with special beginner quests that award additional skills at rF. The quests entail a beginner mission with Master Tin, like at the beginner quest boards. If you have the skill at rN before completing the quest, you will automatically be awarded the skill at rF.


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  • ImagerF Healing
  • ImagerF First Aid
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  • ImagerF Control Marionette
  • ImagerF Pierrot Marionette
  • ImagerF Colossus Marionette
  • ImagerF Act 1: Inciting Incident
  • ImagerF Act 2: Threshold Crutter
  • ImagerF Act 4: Rising Action


Hero Divas
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Creating a new character with a Hero character card and selecting the Soul Star talent will award that new character with the following skill ranks on top of the base skill ranks:

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  • Imager9 Magic Mastery
  • ImagerA Healing
  • ImagerA Party Healing
  • ImagerA First Aid
  • ImagerA Meditation
  • ImagerC Mana Shield
  • ImagerD Fire Shield
  • ImagerD Ice Shield
  • ImagerD Lightning Shield
  • ImagerD Natural Shield
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  • Imager5 Playing Instrument
  • Imager9 Musical Knowledge
  • Imager9 Composing
  • Imager9 Dischord
  • ImagerA Battlefield Overture
  • ImagerA Lullaby
  • ImagerA Vivace
  • ImagerA Enduring Melody
  • ImagerA Harvest Song
  • ImagerA March Song
  • ImagerD Enthralling Performance
  • ImagerF Encore
  • ImagerF Phantasmal Chorus
  • ImagerF Singing
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  • Imager9 Control Marionette
  • Imager9 Pierrot Marionette
  • Imager9 Colossus Marionette
  • ImagerA Act 1: Inciting Incident
  • ImagerA Act 2: Threshold Crutter
  • ImagerA Act 4: Rising Action
  • ImagerD Act 6: Crisis
  • ImagerD Act 7: Climactic Crash
  • ImagerD Act 9: Invigorating Encore
  • ImagerD Wire Pull
  • ImagerD Puppet's Snare
In addition, the new player will receive 400 AP to use as (s)he wishes, totalling 1315 AP.



Elite Hero Divas
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Creating a new character with an Elite Hero character card and selecting the Soul Star talent will award that new character with the following skill ranks on top of the base skill ranks:

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  • Imager7 Magic Mastery
  • Imager7 Healing
  • Imager7 Party Healing
  • Imager9 First Aid
  • Imager9 Meditation
  • Imager9 Mana Shield
  • Imager9 Fire Shield
  • Imager9 Ice Shield
  • Imager9 Lightning Shield
  • Imager9 Natural Shield
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  • Imager2 Playing Instrument
  • Imager5 Musical Knowledge
  • Imager5 Composing
  • Imager5 Dischord
  • Imager8 Battlefield Overture
  • Imager8 Lullaby
  • Imager8 Vivace
  • Imager8 Enduring Melody
  • Imager8 Harvest Song
  • Imager8 March Song
  • ImagerA Enthralling Performance
  • ImagerF Encore
  • ImagerF Phantasmal Chorus
  • ImagerF Singing
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  • Imager5 Control Marionette
  • Imager5 Pierrot Marionette
  • Imager5 Colossus Marionette
  • Imager8 Act 1: Inciting Incident
  • Imager8 Act 2: Threshold Cutter
  • Imager8 Act 4: Rising Action
  • ImagerA Act 6: Crisis
  • ImagerA Act 7: Climactic Crash
  • ImagerA Act 9: Invigorating Encore
  • ImagerA Wire Pull
  • ImagerA Puppet's Snare
In addition, the new player will receive 800 AP to use as (s)he wishes, totaling 2414 AP.



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D. Concept Art
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II. New Items

In addition to the new talent given to us in the Diva update, we are given a new wardrobe and many new instruments to utilize and master. We also see a new talent-related item and a new unique type of dye!

A. Instruments

Piano
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Image Piano has its own "set-up" action similar to using a tower cylinder. You use this action in order to use your piano.
3×4
Speed: Cannot Attack With
Durability: 40
Damage: 0~0
Injury: 0~0
Critical: 0
Balance: 0
Enchant: No
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: No
Splash Radius: N/A
Splash Angle: N/A
Splash Damage: N/A
Stamina per Swing: N/A

Sold from Trade Assistant Imps in the Limited Time Tab for 5,000,000 ducats.



Violin
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2×3
Speed: Normal 2 hit
Durability: 40
Damage: 3~7
Injury: 0~0
Critical: 15
Balance: 50
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 5
Gem Upgrade: 1
Reforge: Yes
Splash Radius: 200
Splash Angle: 45
Splash Damage: 45%
Stamina per Swing: 1

Obtained from a Login Event in KR, not obtainable otherwise.



Cello
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2×4
Speed: Normal 2 hit
Durability: 40
Damage: 3~7
Injury: 0~0
Critical: 15
Balance: 50
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 5
Gem Upgrade: 1
Reforge: Yes
Splash Radius: 200
Splash Angle: 45
Splash Damage: 45%
Stamina per Swing: 1

Sold from NPCs who sell instruments for 100,000 gold.



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B. Microphones

Stand Microphone
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1×4
Speed: Very Slow 2 hit
Durability: 35
Damage: 6~7
Injury: 0~0
Critical: 10
Balance: 35
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 5
Gem Upgrade: 1
Reforge: Yes
Splash Radius: 350
Splash Angle: 90
Splash Damage: 50%
Stamina per Swing: .5

Sold from NPCs who sell instruments for 30,000 gold.



Wireless Microphone
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1×2
Speed: Very Slow 2 hit
Durability: 35
Damage: 6~7
Injury: 0~0
Critical: 10
Balance: 35
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 5
Gem Upgrade: 1
Reforge: Yes
Splash Radius: 350
Splash Angle: 90
Splash Damage: 50%
Stamina per Swing: .5

Sold from NPCs who sell instruments for 30,000 gold.



Concert Wireless Microphone
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1×2
Speed: Very Slow 2 hit
Durability: 35
Damage: 6~7
Injury: 0~0
Critical: 10
Balance: 35
Base Magic Attack: 10
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 5
Gem Upgrade: 1
Reforge: Yes
Splash Radius: 350
Splash Angle: 90
Splash Damage: 50%
Stamina per Swing: .5

Obtained from a Login Event, not obtainable otherwise.

-Allows the use of Party Heal.



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C. Clothing Set


- This is a clothing bag sold for a limited time in the cash shop.
- Using it rewards you the entire clothing set, it is not like a gachapon.
- This has nothing to do with Zero, Hero, or Elite Hero character card, and is irrelevant to any instruments or microphones.
- The bag takes 2x2 inv room and gender specific; and consumed on use.
- Opening the bag grants you a gender-locked outfit, boots, and it gives you a item coupon that gives you a gender and race locked earring. (Elf earring items are always separate models.)


What this set looks like
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Diva Circle Suit for Men
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2×4
Durability: 16
Defense: 2
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 2
Magic Protection: 2
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 3
Reforge: Yes


Diva Circle Suit for Women
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2×4
Durability: 16
Defense: 2
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 2
Magic Protection: 2
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 3
Reforge: Yes



Diva Circle Boot for Men
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2×3
Durability: 10
Defense: 1
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 1
Magic Protection: 1
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: Yes



Diva Circle Boots for Women
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2×3
Durability: 10
Defense: 1
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 1
Magic Protection: 1
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: Yes



Diva Circle Ear Cuff for Men
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1×1
Durability: 14
Defense: 0
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 1
Magic Protection: 1
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: Yes



Diva Circle Ear Cuff for Women
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1×1
Durability: 14
Defense: 0
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 1
Magic Protection: 1
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: Yes



Diva Circe Ear Cuff for Elf Men
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1×1
Durability: 14
Defense: 0
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 1
Magic Protection: 1
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: Yes



Diva Circle Ear Cuff for Elf Women
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1×1
Durability: 14
Defense: 0
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 1
Magic Protection: 1
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: Yes



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D. Gachapon Items

Diva Hair
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2×2
Durability: 14
Defense: 1
Protection: 1
Magic Defense: 0
Magic Protection: 0
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: Yes



Diva Hair with Silver Brooch
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2×2
Durability: 14
Defense: 1
Protection: 1
Magic Defense: 0
Magic Protection: 0
Enchant: Yes
Upgrade: 0
Reforge: Yes



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E. Misc. Items

Instrument Painting Spray
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Sold from Trade Assistant Imps in the Limited Time Tab for 100,000 ducats.

- Allows dying of instrument items.
- Unsure if it works on the Electric Guitar, as they can use ordinary dye ampoules prior to this update.



Amulet of Soulstar
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2×2
Durability: 50
Defense: 0
Protection: 0
Magic Defense: 0
Magic Protection: 0

Obtained by creating a new character in the Soul Star Talent with an Elite Hero Card. Its tradability status is currently unclear.

- This goes in the accessory equipment slot.
- Increases skill training to Singing, Phantasmal Chorus, and Encore in a manor similar to skill experience reforges.




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III.New Skills


The Diva update introduces 3 new skills for musicians to utilize. Of the new skills, two of them make use of the new singing ability in the update, while the third helps compliments the rest of the music skills. For examples of these new skills, we have provided examples in our Videos section of this post.

A. Singing
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  • Singing allows the user to sing with a microphone, rather than using an instrument.
  • Singing works in a similar manner to Playing Instrument.
  • It comes with its own Music Buff Effect boost, which does not stack with Playing Instrument.
  • Upgrading and enchanting a microphone will boost singing as well.
  • Just like Playing Instrument, Singing does boost crop growth in homesteads. It is currently not clear what the specific bonuses are as the data is server side.
  • The player cannot move while using Singing.
  • Past rank 5, it is possible to use this skill without equipping a microphone. This also gives the ability to use music buff skills without wearing a microphone / instrument. This excludes Dischord, which cannot be used with a microphone either.
  • Unlike Playing Instrument, different Microphones do not alter the sound of the singing. However, the player's gender does.



Choir/Singing with others
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Image - Choir is an action used in conjunction with Music Jam for the singing skill.

  • If a party member uses Choir, it is activated when the party leader uses Music Jam, and vice versa.
  • You cannot activate Phantasmal Chorus with Singing, Playing Instrument, Choir, or Party Jam. Note that, at the moment, there are no music buff skills in test due to a glitch, so we cannot activate Phantasmal at all, much less see if you can use it in a Jam or Choir. That being said, when it comes out, you'll probably just have to synchronize the jam/choir with the chorus.
  • Choir is obtained by completing the Music Jam quest, it is the exact same thing as Music Jam but performs normal singing instead of playing your instrument.


Singing and Composition
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Composing now has a fourth, "Vocal", line. This line has the same character limit as the Melody line at all ranks except rank novice.
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Unlike traditional instruments the new instruments and the voices have a very specific range. If you write a note out of its range it will simply "silent" the note since it cannot play. The ranges are the following:

Piano: o1c ~ o7c
Violin: o1e ~ o4b
Cello: o1c ~ o3a+
Vocal (Male): o1f ~ o4c+
Vocal (Female): o1c ~ o3a
Choir (Male): o1d ~ o3a+
Choir (Female): o1g ~ o4c

That means if you play out of line of the assigned notes, it will simply be silent.

Now what does it means? Let's take the Female Phantom Chorus. It can only go from the first octave "g" to the fourth octave C... it means it will not play the fifth octave nor will it play things like lower than octave note G.

The easiest way for one to make a "quick fix" to songs is to add a o1 or o2 infront of their MML scroll such as below:

o1+76v15l8>b+bag4d4.a1b+bag4f#4gg4.gf#dc-d4e4

While that may make the song singable, a true writer will want to manipulate the octaves and notes in order to accommodate the change.

However, lowering it an octave will just make it sound softer or sharper, so song coded with sensitive octaves will need to be re-written carefully.

Visit this page for more information:
[url="http://mabination.com/threads/73297-Kenero-s-Diva-Mabinogi-MML-Creation"]http://mabination.com/threads/73297-Kenero-s-Diva-Mabinogi-MML-Creation[/url]


[See Videos tab for example]

Method to Obtain
Simply equip any form of microphone and the skill will be learnt.


Singing Rank Information
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Below is a table containing the bonuses gained and the effect per rank.

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Master Title: Singing Master - Grants +3 Music Buff Effect.

For skill training requirements, refer to this page. This is accurate at the time of posting.


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B. Phantasmal Chorus
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  • Phantasmal Chorus allows the user to sing while playing an instrument.
  • When used, a duration bar will appear under where your health bar should be. You must use a music buff skill during its duration to activate it.
  • Using Playing Instrument, Singing, Music Jam, or Choir will not activate it. Other players can see the duration bar.
  • A circle will appear on the ground when it has been successfully activated at the feet of the caster.
  • The circle buffs players within the circle as well as players who enter the circle.
  • Multiple circles from people in the same party will stack if the buffs are different. If the same buff is used, the most recent one is taken into effect.
  • The passive Music Buff Effect from Singing is used rather than Playing Instrument.
  • The buff/debuff circle does not disappear if the player stops performing.

[See Videos tab for example]


Effects

Hymn of Life - Improves player regeneration of HP, MP and stamina per second.
Ode of Sighs - Reduces movement speed, stats, attack and casting speed.

The following skills activate the following secondary buffs:
Hymn of Life
  • Enduring Melody
  • Harvest Song
  • March Song
Ode of Sighs
  • Battlefield Overture
  • Vivace
  • Lullaby


Method to Obtain
Raise both Playing Instrument and Singing to Rank 5 and complete the Fantastic Voice quest.

Fantastic Voice Quest
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Dialog and steps both included:

Step 1: Meet with nele
  • Hi, my name is Nele...
  • I will talk about that performance in the castle (Tara or Emain? Doesn't specify)
  • As you might have expected, it's about the female singer that appeared.
  • Everybody calls her the Diva, but no one even knows if that is the name of the mysterious singer.
  • But according to the audiences, her singing skill is no mystery...
  • They say sometimes she sounds like a goddess, other times like a cry of the most hideous monster you can imagine, as if she is the collection of every sound in the world...
  • And also...
  • Well, this isn't confirmed yet, but many of the audiences of the performance apparently heard a different voice.
  • As in, the only one singing on the stage was the Diva, but there was another voice audible.
  • I checked multiple times again since so many were claiming to hear this non-existent voice, only to find out the only one on the stage was indeed the Diva.
  • This is kind of a shameless request, but would you like to confirm this?
  • To get more accurate information, you gotta ask the higher officials, but I'm just a homeless bard.


Step 2: Speak to Lezarro
  • Welcome to Tara, the capital of Aliech kingdom.
  • (I asked him about the Diva)
  • You're wondering about that too? It was the first kind of its style that I've heard.
  • It's definitely not the type of music usually played in the castle.
  • As I was getting into the music, I felt like regretful for some reason, and at that moment, I was hearing an unbelievable chorus.
  • I don't clearly remember what happened after. It was definitely great, and I think it has something to do with magic.
  • And why did you come looking for me anyways? I reckon Briana would know better about music.


Step 3: Speak to Briana
  • Hello? (I asked her about the music of Diva)
  • Oh, so you came to talk about that music? It was great!
  • Especially the thing that everybody claimed to hear. The chorus! It was so fascinating.
  • I actually didn't hear it at all. But when I was looking at the audiences, I could tell they were astounded.
  • Personally, I felt a little awkward that the audiences heard the chorus, but I guess there's a secret inside there.
  • Hope it helped.


Step 4: Speak to Arzhela
  • It was magnificent music. You could say it awakens your soul. (I told her what Briana told me)
  • Briana said that? How surprising. Awkwardness and fascination...
  • This just came into my mind, across the sea, in the desserts in Iria, apparently you can see hallucinations and voices.
  • Maybe you can find more information there?


Step 5: Speak to Atrata
  • Hello, my name is Atrata. (I asked her about the hallucination in the desert)
  • Ah... that. It's actually similar to magic that the nature makes.
  • Hm... now that I think about it, I think I told this to another person.
  • Unfortunately, I don't remember who that was. But I do remember that the person became disappointed like you and asked something else.
  • Then the person left for Courcle. I don't remember much else, but at least I remember the destination.


Step 6: Speak to Kousai
  • (I asked him about the person looking for the hallucination)
  • Hm... I don't even remember when that was.
  • Yes, there was a person who asked about stories about the hallucination and voices.
  • She had a great musical talent, but lacked something... it was that kind of woman.
  • And for me... I think I talked about the mind being unstable.
  • During the night, in the jungle where you can't see anything, seeing hallucinations and voices is caused by your mind shaking.
  • I mean, it's us humans that make up these non-existent evil spirits. Like the countless mistakes that we made...


Step 7: Speak to Nele
  • I see. A projection that you want to see and the unstable mind...
  • Speaking of which, Huw told me an interesting story.
  • He says that in some cases, it's easier to control a human's mind than a puppet's mind... now it makes some sense.
  • I think she... shocks people with beautiful music, then with some dissonances and stage,
  • She completes what the audiences want to hear.
  • Ultimate music that satisfies everyone... I guess you could approach it like she does. It's a surprising idea.
  • Hm... don't you think this could be used in a battle? In the middle of the battle, you use the excitement to make hallucinations and voices...
  • I don't know too much about combat so it won't be easy, but wouldn't <CharacterName> be able to do it?



Phantasmal Chorus Rank Information
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Below is a table containing the bonuses gained and the effects per rank.

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Master Title: Phantasmal Chorus Master - Increases the duration of the circle by 5 seconds.

Training Requirements
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C. Encore
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  • Encore resets all cooldowns for music skills.
  • Does not apply to itself.
  • Can be used regardless of equipped weapon.
  • When used, a cheering sound effect will play, and small firework effects will appear around the player.

[See Videos tab for example]

Method to Obtain
Use the Playing Instrument skill at least once.

Encore Rank Information

Below is a table containing the bonuses gained and the effects per rank.

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Master Title: Encore Master - Reduces the cooldown of the skill by 30 seconds.

For skill training requirements, refer to this page. This is accurate at the time of posting.




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IV. Videos


With all the new sounds and visuals that are brought in with this update, we have provided a few video examples for everyone to enjoy. Here you will find videos of the new Diva skills and instruments![/SIZE]

A. Female Singing (Composed Score)
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B. Female Singing (Default)
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C. Male Singing (Composed Score)
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D. Male Singing (Default)
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E. Piano
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[youtube]2Z3nEXjq2Qs[/video]



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F. Violin
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G. Cello
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V. Credits:
The Korean Diva Testing Team - Team Origami Pizza
  • Maia
  • Psy
  • Yai
  • Blanks
  • Kurayami
  • Taycat

And a special thanks to:
    Solar of Mabidata for Hero/Elite Hero Skill Ranks
  • Mabinogi World Wiki
  • Others of the KR Test Team

Source: http://mabination.com/threads/74532-Mab ... -Organized)
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Re: [Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

Postby Mackinz » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:31 pm

Maybe someone could explain this to me...

What is the point of Encore? All of the current bard buff skills have short cooldowns, and the only way I could imagine it being useful is in resetting Phantasmal Chorus' 30 second cooldown.
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Re: [Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

Postby Kenero » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:04 pm

Mackinz wrote:Maybe someone could explain this to me...

What is the point of Encore? All of the current bard buff skills have short cooldowns, and the only way I could imagine it being useful is in resetting Phantasmal Chorus' 30 second cooldown.


One bard could essentially double buff at the same time with Phantasmal Chorus.

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Re: [Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

Postby Mackinz » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:33 pm

Kenero wrote:
Mackinz wrote:Maybe someone could explain this to me...

What is the point of Encore? All of the current bard buff skills have short cooldowns, and the only way I could imagine it being useful is in resetting Phantasmal Chorus' 30 second cooldown.


One bard could essentially double buff at the same time with Phantasmal Chorus.
How?

Music buff effects do not stack?
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Re: [Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

Postby Kapra » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:37 pm

Right now, if one party member uses Vivace and another uses Battlefield, the more recent buff will cancel out the first. However, if both party members use those buffs with Phantasmal Chorus, it will not overwrite. In addition, two phantasmal choruses from the same person do not overwrite. So a solo player can pretty much get Vivace and Battlefield at the same time if he has an instrument, the phantasmal chorus skill, and the encore skill.

Also, if you use Vivace with Phantasmal, then a party member uses Battlefield by itself, Battlefield will overwrite all your current buffs. . .
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Re: [Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

Postby Kenero » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:49 pm

Psy wrote:Right now, if one party member uses Vivace and another uses Battlefield, the more recent buff will cancel out the first. However, if both party members use those buffs with Phantasmal Chorus, it will not overwrite. In addition, two phantasmal choruses from the same person do not overwrite. So a solo player can pretty much get Vivace and Battlefield at the same time if he has an instrument, the phantasmal chorus skill, and the encore skill.

Also, if you use Vivace with Phantasmal, then a party member uses Battlefield by itself, Battlefield will overwrite all your current buffs. . .


Psy got it.

With Phantasmal Chorus, you can stack two buffs together, like Battlefield + Vivace.

In this case, using encore between two Phantom Chorus allows one bard to essentially combine buffs by themselves.

Phantasmal Chorus (Battlefield) - > Encore - > Phantasmal Chorus (Enduring Melody) = Battlefield + Enduring Melody with one bard.

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Re: [Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

Postby LuxVertigo » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:48 pm

For these zero talent cards, are they ONLY for making new characters like the old hero cards? Can they be used as rebirth cards?

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Re: [Mabinogi] Zero Diva Update (Information Consolidated)

Postby Kapra » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:54 am

Okay, the later Project Dream Update changed how they work so I'm going to explain before and after.

Before: Hero and Elite Hero are new character-only. Zero can be used to make a new character or rebirth one. Zero cards cost about 1k nx more than Basic cards.

After: Zero, Hero, and Elite Hero cards are new character-only. You can rebirth a character in a Hero talent via 39 pons.

Unsure which version NA will get.
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