[JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby Soluna » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:54 pm

Just to clarify something, well actually making it more complicated... because this talent is *sigh...

Anyway...

Shuriken is a a 2hand weapon because you can put 2hand enchants on them after the new updates. However, the S/R effect and everything else is all still considered 1 Hand Weapon.

Shuriken activates Range PD but you cannot put ranged weapon enchant on them.

Shuriken can use move like Assault Slash unlike other ranged weapons.

Shuriken cannot attack with Final Hit, but you can use Final Hit (you just can't attack <_<...).

Shuriken cannot use Charge with Shieldless Charge Reforge.

[s]Conclusion: This weapon is a bug[/s]

As for Shuriken attack missing it is being investigate: LINK

[s]So... when will we get a support page listing all the bugs being investigate?[/s]
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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby Kapra » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:46 am

Soluna [Bot] wrote:There are 8 new enchants. Two of the enchants will be from Ninja Talent Quest, similar to Fighters. Orient and Of Useful (Prefix and Suffix).
Another one is dropped in Rabbie and Barri Adv. That is the Enchant Of Without (Suffix) and it is exclusive.

I did the Ninja quest chain then did a second attempt just now for an unrelated reason, and on neither attempts did I get the Of Useful/Suffix Enchant, only Orient. Which quest does it come from? Is it a possible dungeon reward?
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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby Soluna » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:08 am

Kapra wrote:I did the Ninja quest chain then did a second attempt just now for an unrelated reason, and on neither attempts did I get the Of Useful/Suffix Enchant, only Orient. Which quest does it come from? Is it a possible dungeon reward?

Useful is from collect 10 weapon fragments. JP had 2 events giving out Akatuski Shuriken Hot Time and Pre-Ninja Event Quest.
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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP)

Postby Zaifer » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:53 am

Lingshen wrote:I think Ninja/Gunner is heavily viable based on how strategically you use Gunner. Like...

Shooting Rush > Ground Trap > Bullet Storm > Kunai Storm > Shadow Binding > Lullaby/Cloud > Sakura Shigure
Based on how well they grouped, you could use Rasenzan's small AoE too. If Shadow Bind doesn't undo if you switch weapons, you could use Frenzy while they're bound.

Martial Arts/Ninja is a curious one. Ninja seems to be about keeping distance or staying safe while Martial Arts is rushing into the battle. I'm curious how that would work out. Mean, stepping out of Shadow Bind's circle cancels out the skill and the first stages of Martial Arts do exactly that.


Yeah it is viable, but you need to be strategic like that and I can see a lot of people not really knowing to do that so I can still see it going either way depending on how it's used.

Was thinking the main combo for Fighter/Ninja would be something like Smokescreen(Maybe) or Shadow Binding>Focused Fist>Stage 2>Stage 3>Sneak Attack>Charge Strike>Stage 2>Stage3>Shadow Binding>Rasenzan(if you have the time?) or Kunai Throw
Then basically lather, rinse, repeat sorta thing. I feel like that'd get a lot of damage out. That and the multiple Debuffs from Uppercut and Smokescreen could prove useful as well. For PvE you can throw in Bone Dragon Debuff too and that's pretty much anythings defense and protection gone leaving you to just go to town on them. Other one I thought of was
Kunai > Charge Strike > Stage 2 > Pummel > Binding > Focused Fist > Stage 2 > Dropkick > Ground Trap > Rasenzan

Gets decent damage from Kunai and the first Chain attack then the Dropkick puts distance between you. Ground Trap is more or less just used to put something between you and your opponent so Rasenzan has time to charge. I guess it kinda falls apart if the opponent uses a bow but the usual move for them is gonna be run away and shoot arrows so getting that off in the first place would be kinda meeeehhh.

Soluna [Bot] wrote:Shuriken is a a 2hand weapon because you can put 2hand enchants on them after the new updates. However, the S/R effect and everything else is all still considered 1 Hand Weapon.

Shuriken activates Range PD but you cannot put ranged weapon enchant on them.

Shuriken can use move like Assault Slash unlike other ranged weapons.

Shuriken cannot attack with Final Hit, but you can use Final Hit (you just can't attack <_<...).

Shuriken cannot use Charge with Shieldless Charge Reforge.

[s]Conclusion: This weapon is a bug[/s]

[s]So... when will we get a support page listing all the bugs being investigate?[/s]


I don't think some of those aren't bugs it's just that shuriken is gonna be one of those weird ones that works like that. I don't remember you being able to put ranged enchants on Guns either (granted I never tried to) and it is a range/melee hybrid so it might just be like that. Final Hit and S/R part is weird though.

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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby Soluna » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:17 am

Side Memo because someone asked:

Ninja story quest will award you a title and it is depended on your action, the 2 titles' effects are:
Hagi's Friend - +10Str, +10Will, +2 Min Dmg
Anzu's Friend - +10Str, +10Will, +3 Max Dmg
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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby jayy124cp » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:45 pm

Where does the weapons come from? I know the regular ones you can get but the blue and pink ones? Do they come from gachas?

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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby Soluna » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:22 pm

jayy124cp wrote:Where does the weapons come from? I know the regular ones you can get but the blue and pink ones? Do they come from gachas?

If you are referring to page 1, Blue is Hagi's Shuriken, Pink is Anzu's Shuriken.

Both can be smithed using blacksmith skill and pattern are sold in Fleta's shop.

You will also been given Akatsuki's Shuriken if you manage to collect 10 Weapon Fragments from the current event when the update comes.
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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby jayy124cp » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:26 am

Soluna [Bot] wrote:
jayy124cp wrote:Where does the weapons come from? I know the regular ones you can get but the blue and pink ones? Do they come from gachas?

If you are referring to page 1, Blue is Hagi's Shuriken, Pink is Anzu's Shuriken.

Both can be smithed using blacksmith skill and pattern are sold in Fleta's shop.

You will also been given Akatsuki's Shuriken if you manage to collect 10 Weapon Fragments from the current event when the update comes.


Oh okay, thank you so much. And do you know if a new gacha is coming with this update?

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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby Soluna » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:57 am

jayy124cp wrote:Oh okay, thank you so much. And do you know if a new gacha is coming with this update?

yes there will be.

The outfit of the 2 NPC characters Hagi and Anzu will be in costume bag.
There will be a gacha along with it that will have the wig hair styles of the 2 NPCs, 2nd title coupon for the 2 NPCs and more.

There will also be event for you for 2x Ninja training and event quest to rank up Ninja skill up to certain rank to earn AP potions.
The quest will be the following 4 skills: Kage Shibari, Midare Kunai, Daichi Jin, Ougi: Sakura Shigure

In addition there will hot time event to give away the Akatsuki Shuriken. Note: The current Mystery Skill Event also give Akatsuki Shuriken, but the event will have enchants on it and normailly Akatsuki Shuriken is not enchantable. However, the Akatsuki Shuriken from Mystery Skill Event will not be tradable, pet-able. So there are actually 2 types of Akatsuki Shriken.

In addition, currently JP has open survey for the Ninja skill set to evaluate the skills base on:
1. For different skills:
a. cool down
b. training time
c. stamina usage
d. skill control methods
e. other

2.How player feel about the current cooldown, power of the current implementations are.

So you can expect there will be more change to the skills' mechanics.
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Re: [JP] Ninja Talent unveiled (WIP - updated)

Postby Soluna » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:31 pm

Super Lazy Mode!

Patch notes:
http://mabinogi.nexon.net/News/Announcements/1/00Hw3?nxid=10

I believe Rena's rental system is probably the special upgrade rental weapon system the dev mentioned in the Gameabout interview.
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